Identient Podcast

In this premiere episode of the Identient Podcast, Steve sits down with Mark Settle, a seven-time CIO and author of Truth from the Trenches, to explore the dual-edged power of metrics in IT leadership. Mark shares how metrics, when mismanaged, become “loaded weapons” that create unintended consequences—but when designed thoughtfully, they drive alignment, continuous improvement, and strategic impact. They delve into fostering security culture, balancing operational excellence with strategic initiatives, and avoiding the pitfalls of typecasting. Tune in for actionable insights that redefine how CIOs and CISOs approach Identity and Access Management and IT leadership.

Key Takeaways

• CIOs must design metrics that align with business goals
• Behavioral metrics can lead to unanticipated consequences
• A culture of continuous improvement is essential for IT success
• Security culture starts within the IT organization
• Aggregate metrics can obscure individual contributions
• CIOs need to balance operational efficiency with strategic initiatives
• Understanding customer perspectives is crucial for effective IT management
• Expectations for IT performance are continually rising
• Metrics should evolve with changing business conditions
• Building relationships across departments enhances IT effectiveness
• Street credibility increases with hands-on involvement
• Echo chambers can help assess team alignment
• Cultural alignment is crucial for cybersecurity initiatives
• CIOs play a vital role in cybersecurity budgeting
• Risk profiles dictate cybersecurity priorities
• A Chief Identity Officer may not be necessary
• Self-assessment is key for tech leaders’ success
• Technical skills may atrophy in leadership roles
• Accountability is essential for team morale
• Learning from failures can drive personal growth

Episode Chapters

1. Introduction to the Conversation
2. The Role of Metrics in IT Management
3. Dynamic Metrics and Behavioral Change
4. Creating a Culture of Continuous Improvement
5. The Importance of Security Culture
6. Balancing Business Value and Employee Satisfaction
7. Political Skills for CIOs
8. Building Relationships and Understanding Needs
9. Navigating the Echo Chamber: Internal vs External Perspectives
10. Managing Identity and Access Management (IAM) at Okta
11. Cultural Alignment and Support in Cybersecurity
12. The Role of CIOs in Cybersecurity Budgeting
13. The Case for a Chief Identity Officer
14. Self-Assessment for Tech Leaders: Avoiding Typecasting
15. Learning from Failures: The Importance of Accountability